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Date:  Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:35:46 -0400
From:  "Paul Aviles" <paul.aviles (at mark)>
Subject:  [coba-e:10989] Re: AW:  Re: Progress Development Bluequartz
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Michael, I am not saying you are bad, heck no.

I am only stating something that has happened in the past. It is just history and common sense. Take any of the projects that have started as Open Source and spin out to commercial and you have seen a great deal of the community leaving.  Take Sugar, Compiere and Open Bravo as two perfect examples. Once they announced that they were separating the projects into free and paid they lost their momentum. Compiere forked into OB and Adempiere now and Sugar has forked so many times it can be considered now a spoon. 

The big difference at least there is that they are managed under one company umbrella. With BQ that never happened, so we now have different people doing different things. Once again, I am not putting the finger nor blaming anyone. 

Now, I am not the voice for BQ at all. However as a community having someone with vested personal interest does complicate things for the "community", that窶冱 all. 

Besides the obvious differences, are you and others going to include the roadmap for your own products into BQ? If not, then there is nothing wrong with that, but then lets called it a fork lets all be happy. Then we can I guess agree to some common grounds and move forward.

Don't make more of my comments because there is nothing else behind.


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Stauber [mailto:bq (at mark)] 
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 6:44 PM
To: coba-e (at mark)
Subject: [coba-e:10987] Re: AW: Re: Progress Development Bluequartz

Hi Arthur,

> I hope very much that Brian, Michael, others...will join you in the
> council.

I am very interested in contributing and participating as part of the team. I 
am also interested in submitting code to the official branch with which I 
have enhanced my own fork of BlueQuartz in between. 

However, at the moment there appears to be a certain dissent to include people 
with commercial interests in the project, which I find totally unecessary. So 
I'll just sit here with my offer to help and to participate and see of wether 
it'll be accepted or not and how things get sorted out. 

With best regards,

Michael Stauber